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Tractorsport Flowbench Forum Archive • View topic - Bracket for mounting valve bowls

Bracket for mounting valve bowls

Orifice Style bench discussions

Postby Mousehouse1 » Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:03 am

Has anyone else used the hot rodding or mercdog plans? I am not happy with the threaded metal blocks that holds the threaded rods which attaches to the valve bowls. Does anyone have any good ideas on what to replace them with or something that works better?

The threaded rods are to loose in the metal blocks and I don't think they will seal very well.
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Postby cspeier » Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:14 am

Martin
This is what I did. I had a piece of 3/8 tube welded to a mounting plate. The I got a all thread coupler and welded it to the end. It's about 10 inches long. It makes a real sturdy and a good support for the bowl.

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Postby Mousehouse1 » Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:55 am

Thanks Chad. That is what I should have used from the beginning.
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Postby 84-1074663779 » Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:52 pm

Much better to toss out those horrid flow control valves, and control the speed of the blower motor(s) with a variac.

It will make a significant reduction to the noise level and power consumption as well as making the construction of the bench a lot simpler.
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Postby Mousehouse1 » Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:00 pm

Okay Tony explain or show me a picture of how you would do it without the valves. My bench is identical to Chads except I haven't finished it yet.
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Postby 86rocco » Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:29 pm

The simplest way for you to accomplish what Tony is suggesting is to use your existing valves merely to control the direction of the air flow and use the variac to control air flow volume. IWO, open the appropriate valve all the way and adjust the motor speed with the variac to control the flow rate.
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Postby Mousehouse1 » Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:57 pm

Where can I get a variac? I am using 8 vacuum motors. Do I need to control all of them or just a few?
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Postby 86rocco » Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:29 pm

Check ebay, there's always a few there. And one or two blowers on the variac should be fine, switch the remaining blower individually so that you can stage them, so that when you've got the variac at maximum and want more flow, you can just switch on another blower
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Postby Mousehouse1 » Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:51 pm

Is there a certain type, brand or size I should look for or just buy any variac?
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Postby 86rocco » Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:49 pm

Just get any one that operates in the right voltage and current range for the blowers you're using. For what might be a lower cost alternative, check out .
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Postby Hopper » Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:08 am

[color=#000000]I am currently building a flow bench.

I will be using 6/240 volt blower/vacuum motors. They draw 5 amps a leg when running. I will be using 4 variac
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Postby Mouse » Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:05 am

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Postby 86rocco » Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:09 am

I'd given some though to the same problem but, rather then use a mechanical or electrically operated valve, I'd planned on constructing one that's operated by the air flow within the bench. It would operate very much like the draft control on a chimney consisting, a butterfly valve on the inlet side of each blower, it would have its shaft mounted horizontally and slightly above centre so that the butterfly would naturally fall closed and any air backing up through the blower would hold it closed but when the blower is turned on, the air flow entering the inlet of the blower would push the butterfly open.
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Postby 84-1074663779 » Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:39 pm

If you want to do it that way, why not use an ordinary automotive throttle body ?

One problem you will have is that the flow is very non linear with butterfly position, but that can be fixed by using a system of bell cranks or a snail cam with roller follower on the end of an arm.

After having been through all this myself, I still feel very strongly that controlling blower speed electrically is by far the best method of flow control.
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